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Don’t Delay Planning for College Costs—Even in Divorce

Tuesday, January 31st, 2012

A recent case decided by the Illinois Supreme Court is a cautionary tale as to why you should plan ahead for college expenses when you are going through a divorce.  More frequently these days, couples are planning early for the massive undertaking of putting their kids through college.  When a couple is divorcing, they should likewise plan for what’s to come, or risk not receiving support for these expenses.

In this case, a couple had “reserved” the issue of college expenses in their divorce judgment.  College seemed a long way off at the time, and so they put off the specifics of who would pay what, until some later time.  They did not even state that either would in fact be responsible for them—just that they reserved the issue until a later time.

This is not uncommon to do; after all, each party’s financial circumstances can change drastically from the time the children are young, until it’s time to send them off to college.  The problem here, was that the mom waited until one of her three children was finished with college, and one was currently enrolled, before she petitioned the court to have the dad share in the college costs.

Ordinarily the parties to a divorce may go into court later on and ask for some part of their arrangement to be modified if there has been a change in circumstances.  But the law does not allow the change to be made regarding past obligations.  So if you’re asking the court for more money to pay for expenses for the children, if you’re successful, you may get an increase in support going forward, not backward.

This mom wanted the college costs she had already paid to be shared by the dad.  She did not feel that she should be limited to only future costs, because she did not believe she was asking for a modification at all.  She was not asking for something to be changed, just to have the amounts set, and they had already agreed to determine college expenses later.

But in fact, the court said that their reservation of the college issue just gave the court permission to consider it later, but did not obligate either of them to pay any college costs.  Therefore, when the mom went to court later to ask for the dad to be obligated and pay, she was asking for a change in the circumstances, and so it could only be considered going forward.

So this mom was out the money she had already paid for her children’s tuition and room and board.  Had she acted earlier, before the bills began, it may have been different.

But had she acted even earlier, at the time of the divorce itself, and made a specific provision for college costs being shared by both of them, there may have been a different result.  In some cases, where there was agreement in the divorce that both would share in the responsibility for college expenses, then the later disagreement about amounts could be figured out.  Instead this mom and dad just agreed to agree in the future, so no one was really on the hook for it.

Paying for college long after a divorce can definitely be a confusing issue to resolve.  But one thing is clear.  College tuition is extremely expensive.  So it pays to be sure that if you are going through a divorce, you look all the way down that road, even if your children are very young at the time, and properly consider your options.

1/31/12

Living arrangments in an Illinois divorce

Wednesday, March 2nd, 2011

Every Wednesday we offer five legal tips.  Today has to do with divorce living arrangements.
1.  Moving out- While you are going through a divorce, if you “abandon” the home that you own with your spouse, you will not lose your rights to that marital property.  You retain your interest, as well as your responsibilities to your home. 

2. Wanting your spouse out-Unless there is a serious threat to the safety and well-being of you or your children, you will likely not be able to force your spouse to leave the marital house during the divorce.  As uncomfortable or unpleasant as it may be, if there is no physical or mental jeopardy involved, the two of you will just have to share the house until the divorce is concluded and there is a ruling regarding the house.  

3.  Protecting property-Even while you are living together in the home during the divorce, you can petition the court to preserve and protect personal property.  The judge can issue an order that can protect the marital property from being destroyed, damaged, hidden, or disposed of without consent. 

4.  Protecting yourself and your children-While you are living together during the divorce, you can also petition the court for an order which would protect you and your children from your spouse’s actions and behaviors.  The judge can order your spouse to refrain from any abusive actions which would be physically or mentally harmful to you or your children, or which would prevent you from having freedom to live your lives. 

5.  Needing your spouse out-Where the situation has reached the point that there is a real necessity to have your spouse evicted from the marital house during the divorce, you can petition the court for a ruling.  Where you or your children are physically or mentally endangered by having your spouse living in the house during the proceedings, the judge can issue an order removing him or her.  Generally, there will be notice given to your spouse, and a hearing on the issue.  However in cases where the threat of violence is such that giving notice would be more harmful, that notice can be waived.

The real March Madness- Divorce filings in Illinois

Friday, March 26th, 2010

Times are tough economically for just about everyone.  But you know what happens this time of year?  People get their tax returns and while they used to take that money to buy a big screen TV or take a vacation, it’s been amazing to me how many people have been waiting for that refund to get a divorce.

Whether it’s amicable or not, a divorce costs a decent amount of money.  Most family law attorneys we know in the Chicago-land area won’t start a case for less than $2,500 up front.  Heck, most counties charge at least $300 as a filing fee for the privilege of going through this process.

In January we heard from countless people whose New Years resolution was to get out of a crappy marriage.  Now that they have the money to do it, many people are making it happen.  It will be interesting to see if any statistics are published for the number of divorce filings in March and April.  But I’ll bet you that it’s through the roof, especially compared to other months and past years.

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Gay marriage and divorce in Illinois

Friday, March 5th, 2010

Like it or not (and we don’t), gay marriage is not legal in Illinois.  That also means that gay divorce is not recognized here, even if you are legally married in another state. 

So if you are in a same sex marriage and want out, if you live in Illinois you are probably going to have a hard time.   Most states have a residency requirement which means you have to live in the state for a certain amount of time before you can get a divorce.  So you might have to move to the state where you got married if you want to get a divorce.  Crazy.

While Illinois can’t divorce you, it can deal with property disputes, child custody and other traditional issues that arise in a divorce.   In fact you can pretty much do everything a divorce does except get maintenance (aka alimony) and argue over what are considered marital assets.

Whether you were married in another state or are just in a same sex relationship that is breaking up, a family law attorney is probably the best way to address these issues.  That said, there are only a handful of lawyers that have this type of experience.  Some don’t take these cases because of political views.  Some don’t take them because it’s a different kind of work than they are used to.  And some attorneys would love to take these cases, but they have no experience with it so of course you probably don’t want to hire them.

We think a simple solution to this problem, even for those people that are against gay marriage, is to recognize same sex marriages performed in other states and allow Illinois residents to use divorce courts to end their marriages here.  If you are really against gay marriage then you shouldn’t be against gay divorce because at the end of the day it’s one less gay marriage.  We doubt this sensible idea will ever become law, but since when is the law about what makes sense?

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Issues with child support, custody, visitation? Get into court

Tuesday, January 19th, 2010

Our advice in this area of law is often the same: Get into court. Without a court order, it’s hard to solve these problems. This is especially true if the parties disagree, can’t communicate, or just refuse to work together because the situation is so out of control.

If your ex-girlfriend won’t let you see your child, get into court. You need to establish paternity and ask for a visitation schedule. If your ex-husband agreed to pay support but then changed his mind, get into court. Without a support order, there is nothing for a judge to enforce. If you agreed to let your child spend the weekend with your ex-spouse and you can’t get them to bring your child back home, get into court. When you have a court order, you can call the police if there is a violation and hopefully get things straightened out quickly.

This really is your only option in most cases. It’s not always easy or cheap, but without judge’s order, you can’t force the other party to do anything. Even if you had an informal agreement that worked for years, you need a judge to sign off on it. Agreements reached outside of court don’t mean much at all.

We can’t guarantee that a court order will solve all of your problems, but it’s a good way to establish your rights and get things under control.

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Illinois divorce- representing yourself

Monday, January 11th, 2010

There are more family law cases in Illinois than any other area of law except criminal/traffic.    Yet while the court will appoint you a criminal attorney if you can’t afford one (public defender) in family law you are on your own.  And as the cases can take years, it can cost you a lot more to hire an attorney to fight for you in a custody battle or divorce than it would if you were arrested for armed robbery.

The best lawyers for family law focus their practice on just handling those types of cases.  They all charge by the hour and everyone that we recommend wants a retainer fee, usually at least $2,500 up front.  That just doesn’t work for some people so they try to go at it alone.  This often happens when you have worked with an attorney and don’t feel they are really fighting for you.  

The problem with this approach is twofold.  First, most Judges do not like to deal with people that are not represented.  If you go to court and see that one person has an attorney and the other does not, the lawyer will say everything and often the Judge won’t even give you a chance to say your peace.  They do this because there are so many cases on a docket and the Judge really wants to go home.  Most attorneys know how to keep their points simple, short and devoid of emotion or editorial comments.  At most hearings a Judge does not want to hear about how upset you are or how unfair you think things are.   They want points to focus on facts and law.  If you bring up that your spouse has cheated when you are supposed to be talking about a division of property the Judge will get pissed off.  Right or wrong, most of them won’t even listen to you.

The second problem is that if you represent yourself you are held to the same standard as a licensed attorney and the Judge can’t give you any help.  You are held accountable for having the same knowledge as an attorney who has been handling cases for years and you won’t get any breaks.   If you file something incorrectly it will get thrown out.  If you lose you can’t appeal based on not having had an attorney.  Every Judge we know warns someone that representing themselves is not a good idea.  They do this for a reason; IT’S NOT A GOOD IDEA!!!

Now of course if you have no money you have no choice but to go at it alone.  The system isn’t set up to work any other way.  But remember, a lawyer that represents themselves has a fool for a client.  These hearings are likely your only shot at getting the results you want.  Do whatever you can to come up with the money to hire someone that can protect you.

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